Season 3 Highlights (Recap): Key Gems for Creativepreneurs to Grow & Scale | MMCB Podcast Episode 24
This podcast episode serves as a comprehensive recap of Season Three, wherein we elucidate the most salient discussions and insights that have transpired throughout the season. Our primary focus today is to distill the essential takeaways for both avid listeners and newcomers alike, thereby providing a synthesis of our enlightening conversations with various creative entrepreneurs. We delve into the experiences shared by our esteemed guests, including their strategies for achieving financial success while maintaining creative integrity, as well as the nuances of navigating the complexities of the entrepreneurial landscape. Each episode has been crafted to impart valuable lessons on self-development, business acumen, and innovative strategies pertinent to the creative sector. As we embark on this reflection, we invite you to engage with the highlights and consider how these insights can be applied to your own creative endeavors.
Takeaways:
- The recap of Season Three provided essential insights for creative entrepreneurs, emphasizing strategies and tools for success.
- Listeners were encouraged to explore episodes featuring guests who shared valuable experiences and knowledge about creative business.
- The importance of networking and relationship building was highlighted as a vital component for creative entrepreneurs to thrive in their endeavors.
- Participants were urged to adopt a mindset of abundance rather than scarcity to foster creativity and growth in their business pursuits.
Timestamp Overview:
00:00 Expanding Beyond the Music Scene
09:33 "Networking Beyond Your Industry"
14:20 "Embrace Authenticity for Brand Trust"
17:08 Expert-Led Event Branding Strategy
23:57 "Discussing Systems and Work Balance"
30:32 Musicians' Entrepreneurial Ventures
33:59 Creative Business Funding Boost
39:52 Scaling T-Shirt Business Challenges
42:46 Printheads University: Skill Sharing Hub
48:56 Energy Management for Creatives
55:11 Balancing Growth and Creative Integrity
01:00:23 Lessons from Defunct Companies
01:03:33 "Creative Entrepreneur Community"
01:08:37 "Intention is Everything"
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Conclusion:
Ready for Your Next Level? From building systems and networking with intention, to pricing for value and daring to scale, Season 3 of "Minding My Creative Business" was a treasure trove for growth-minded creatives. The enduring mantra: All it takes is intention, consistency, and laser focus to mind your creative business. Here’s to you and your next big season—dream big, plan bold, and never stop creating!
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ABOUT US We’re Ron & ShySpeaks, two music industry creators marching to the tune of entrepreneurship. Our goal is to help our creative peers keep in step by taking them behind the brands of some of wildly successful creative entrepreneurs. Our interview-styled podcast gives access to the strategy and structure that turn creative arts into viable 6, 7, and even 8 figure business!
Transcript
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Speaker A:Welcome.
Speaker A:Welcome to the Mindy, my creative business podcast.
Speaker A:The number one podcast for creatives to learn strategy, structure and self development.
Speaker A:I am one of your hosts, Ron.
Speaker B:Ironically Jr.
Speaker B:And I am your host, Shy Speaks.
Speaker B:And here's the thing.
Speaker B:Today is all about recapping the entire season three.
Speaker B:So if you missed it, the this episode is for you.
Speaker B:Or maybe you only caught one or two episodes.
Speaker B:You kind of want to know.
Speaker B:Give me the juice.
Speaker B:Give me the.
Speaker B:Squeeze it out for me.
Speaker B:Tell me what I missed.
Speaker B:What can I apply?
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:How can I get to those six, seven and eight figures that y' all love to talk about on the mind of my creative business podcast?
Speaker B:Well, this episode is for you.
Speaker B:So listen in.
Speaker B:We're going to be unpacking episodes 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, all the way through 23, which featured J.
Speaker B:Rhodes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:We feature Ms.
Speaker B:Kim Jenkins.
Speaker B:We talked about navigating full time versus part time with Ron and, and I.
Speaker B:Then we had Roast Fit on there, this dj, Sl sneaker connoisseur turned store owner.
Speaker B:Let me not get into it.
Speaker B:Then we had Ms.
Speaker B:Janon, and then we had Savannah Saana samples and of course Run.
Speaker B:And I brought you another episode as well that was all about keeping the creative integrity in your business.
Speaker B:So, yeah, you don't want to just hear it like that.
Speaker B:You want to unpack with us.
Speaker B:And so the thing we love about these live episodes is if you are listening on the repack, on the replay, then you're actually gonna get the breakdown.
Speaker B:But if you're listening live, we're going to be interactive with you.
Speaker B:So you want to chime in, ask your questions, make your commentary, and we're going to incorporate it into the show.
Speaker B:So this is pretty cool.
Speaker A:Definitely, definitely.
Speaker A:No, you know me, I'm excited.
Speaker A:I love doing these recaps.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:This is season three, right?
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We've made it to season three.
Speaker A:The average, the average podcast doesn't make it this far, and we've made it here.
Speaker A:So the fact that we're epic, that we're recapping up until what is episode 22 is phenomenal.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So, so, yeah, so I'm excited.
Speaker A:So let's, let's.
Speaker A:Let's start from the top, right?
Speaker A:So when we talk about J.
Speaker A:Rose, Jay Rose, he was the first producer, you know, and it's odd because me and you are both from the music industry, right?
Speaker A:I produce.
Speaker A:I used to rap.
Speaker A:I don't rap no more.
Speaker A:You still rap.
Speaker A:And this was the first actual musical guest or, you know, Music producer that we've had on the show in three seasons.
Speaker A:So why, why is that shot?
Speaker B:Why.
Speaker A:Why it take us so long to get a music producer on here?
Speaker B:That's a, that's a great, great question.
Speaker B:We, I think, I mean, to be honest, it was intentional because we knew we, we could have easily tapped our friends from the music world.
Speaker B:But we understand that creative, like the creative entrepreneur spans a landscape beyond music.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:There are people who are interior designers, there are people who are culinary artists.
Speaker B:There are people who are just whatever artisan and craftsman you can think of that may not necessarily have a stage and a music and a beat and a soundscape behind it, but they are still creatives.
Speaker B:And these creatives have been taking their, their passions, their talents, if you will say, their gifts and turning them into businesses.
Speaker B:And we wanted to like, survey the landscape outside of just our friends.
Speaker B:Also, it informs us, being that we're from musicians, like, what else is happening out here outside of the music world?
Speaker B:So we intentionally look elsewhere so we can see what's happening and also be inspired ourselves along the way because it's easy to tap in with our friends.
Speaker B:But yeah, so I, eventually it's like, well, if you're watching this and you're a creative entrepreneur, you've been hearing about all these like clothing designers and sneaker store owners, like, okay, I want to hear about a musician.
Speaker B:So we figured we go ahead and introduce the, the Grammy award winning producer, Mr.
Speaker B:J.
Speaker B:Rhodes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Grammy Award, Dove Award.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, he, he got some accolades.
Speaker A:So we was like, we're not just bringing anybody here, but we bringing somebody that has the accolades, but also has the business experience.
Speaker A:Human.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:He's been able to monetize his skill set.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And he kind of talked about a few different things, right?
Speaker A:One of his things and, and since the show, so, so when we had him on, he was talking about his book these Beats Ain't Free.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So he just released another.
Speaker A:Or not.
Speaker A:It's not out yet.
Speaker A:He's, he, he was in the process of releasing another book called these Dreams Ain't Free.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So he's talking about just that process of him pursuing his dreams and, and walking in what you're seeing the manifestation of today.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So I'm excited to get my hands on that book to give them support.
Speaker A:So please, you know, when the book come out, please go get, get the book.
Speaker A:These Dreams Ain't Free by J.
Speaker A:Rhodes.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm sure it's gonna be a phenomenal book because the interview was a Phenomenal interview.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And also, I think we.
Speaker B:We like, towed the line here with bringing J.
Speaker B:Rhodes on from.
Speaker B:From the musician world, the music.
Speaker B:Because, like you said, he's an author of a book, and he's talking about dreams.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:He's a beat maker, a producer.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But it.
Speaker B:It wasn't just production that he did.
Speaker B:He also ventured into film.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So now I'm like, in this whole director world, if I'm J.
Speaker B:Rhodes.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:You're dreaming beyond the music now.
Speaker B:I'm into the tv, the visual behind it.
Speaker B:And so we brought in somebody who is truly a creative.
Speaker B:Creative.
Speaker B:Creative.
Speaker B:I mean, he has merch shirts that go with the.
Speaker B:These Beats Ain't Free that he was able to monetize and sell to, like, the music community.
Speaker B:But now these Dreams Ain't Free goes to the full creative landscape, which is where we are.
Speaker B:So I think.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Because people.
Speaker B:People already tuned in, and I want them to see what we were.
Speaker B:What he was dropping.
Speaker B:But what were you about to say?
Speaker A:I'm sorry, but no, I.
Speaker A:I love the fact to where we.
Speaker A:We talked about that matriculation, where it started out with just him making beats.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But it.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:It grew to more like.
Speaker A:And that's the thing.
Speaker A:I love how he pointed out somebody else saw something else in him that he necessarily didn't see.
Speaker A:He's like, yo, if you can do beats, you can do film.
Speaker A:He's like, it's like the same.
Speaker A:The same process.
Speaker A:So he was like, he.
Speaker A:So when.
Speaker A:When somebody told him that a light switch came off and was like, huh, you.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And he started, you know, getting into film and editing and things like that.
Speaker A:And now he fell in love with it.
Speaker A:So he had his.
Speaker A:His.
Speaker A:He had his film King of Dallas, but no, before that, he had his show with the show called these Beats Ain't Free.
Speaker A:With the show?
Speaker B:Yeah, these Beats Ain't Free.
Speaker B:It was a TV show, I think it was called these Be saying Free.
Speaker B:But I know it's a show for.
Speaker B:For producers, like the whole life of a producer, a TV series, go from.
Speaker A:That and then to go from his full feature film.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And then talking about doing other projects in film and just like learning.
Speaker A:Learning that industry, tapping in and kind of learning.
Speaker A:Okay, yo, this sync licensing games too.
Speaker A:So it's like, I can create my films and not create music for the films and all this other stuff.
Speaker A:So it's a dope episode.
Speaker A:Y' all gotta go check it out.
Speaker A:Because J.J.
Speaker A:rose was definitely dropping gems in that episode, right?
Speaker B:So if you are a musician and you're like, okay, what was some of something that I can take away that can probably push me home towards those six and seven figures.
Speaker B:He talked about understanding sync licensing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We talked about how that is an entire funding strategy in and of itself, even if you're not getting them in your own films.
Speaker B:Now, J.
Speaker B:Rose happen to be making his own TV shows and his own films, so he can put some of his own music there as well.
Speaker B:But he also.
Speaker B:He may not put the whole soundtrack together with all his music.
Speaker B:He may be tapping in for somebody like you.
Speaker B:So tap into sync, because sync is a way for.
Speaker B:For musicians to make money.
Speaker B:We talked about his tech tools, right.
Speaker B:And some of his business practices.
Speaker B:So we were like, okay, what kind of music?
Speaker B:Like you making this kind of money?
Speaker B:Like, you just gotta.
Speaker B:He just literally just got a Grammy for best hip hop album with Killer Mike.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Which is.
Speaker B:Just came out recently.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:What are you using?
Speaker B:What are your tools?
Speaker B:And so he.
Speaker B:He told us about some tools.
Speaker B:Since you know about that stuff, since you're a former producer.
Speaker B:What was he saying that he was using that the people who are here need to upgrade their equipment to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he really didn't even give us the.
Speaker A:From the production end, he.
Speaker A:We were more so asking them tools as far as.
Speaker A:From the business end, right.
Speaker A:To help him just stay on track with the multiple projects and things that he's doing, like project management tools.
Speaker A:So we talked about, I mean, something as simple as ical, Right.
Speaker A:For his digital camera, I mean, not digital calendar.
Speaker A:He talked about using numbers.
Speaker A:So, you know, if you're a Mac person, you know, numbers, that's the word equivalent to Excel, but just keeping everything's in these.
Speaker A:In.
Speaker A:In the spreadsheets and whatnot, to keep track of everything.
Speaker A:And then his financial system.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was more so focused on those tools and resources.
Speaker A:Opposed to the production tip.
Speaker A:We didn't really talk about production.
Speaker A:It was more so on the business tip.
Speaker B:That's what's up.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So then we talked about also networking and like how he built his relationship because ultimately, yeah, sinking is a form of money, but you kind of got to get those placements.
Speaker B:But then there's this other thing of like actually creating the relationships.
Speaker B:And he was like, to him, there's nothing that really can really replace that right now besides, like literally getting out there and creating those relationships that help you get those placements.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So it was very interesting to talk about, to hear his perspective on why real relationships actually matters.
Speaker B:You can shoot a whole bunch of texts, you can shoot a whole bunch of emails, but you first got to have the text and the emails to shoot out, too.
Speaker B:So I think that some good old networking is in order for the creative entrepreneur who is watching it.
Speaker B:Sometimes we'd be so busy tucked away creating and making our thing that we haven't actually gotten out.
Speaker B:And I will say, as a person who's recently gotten out a lot lately, like, getting out has, like, been lucrative for me.
Speaker B:Like, getting out and actually networking amongst the creative industries and not just within your own industry.
Speaker B:Go to, like, other stuff.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:Go to, like, if you, like, if you're a musician, go to fine art stuff, like, like little visual arts museum type of world.
Speaker B:There may be some.
Speaker B:Some convergence there.
Speaker B:They may be talking about things that you don't know.
Speaker B:What I found is visual artists know a lot about grants, right.
Speaker B:They know a lot about where to find the.
Speaker B:The stipends and the scholarships and the fellowships and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker B:So I would say do that.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:So I agree with him on the networking piece.
Speaker B:We want to keep it moving because we didn't stayed on Jay Rose a little bit.
Speaker A:Right, right, right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we got.
Speaker B:We did.
Speaker B:We did get him to talk about how you get into film.
Speaker B:Like, and so if you really want to unpack that, if you have a.
Speaker B:If you're a creative and you're thinking, like, I think this will be great into a documentary or a docu series or some kind of tv, like, go check him out and talk about how you organizes that team and make sure everybody get paid and how he gets funding.
Speaker B:You really want to check it out because it's fire.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker A:It was a dope episode.
Speaker A:And like I said, we.
Speaker A:And we filmed that one in Dallas.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So along with J.
Speaker A:Rose while I was in Dallas, we had the.
Speaker A:The pleasure of interviewing the one and only.
Speaker A:You're gonna.
Speaker A:You could prepare to be sick of me, Kim Jenkins.
Speaker A:He talked about just, you know, how to prepare for that whole going viral piece.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:It's like, partially.
Speaker A:It's like she's like, you really can't prepare for it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But there is a way to prepare.
Speaker A:But it was.
Speaker A:It was a great conversation because it definitely gave me perspective on being able to monetize my personality or your personality.
Speaker A:So if you're somebody who has a big personality like Kim Jenkins, that's the episode you want to go and watch, because she definitely dropped some gems and.
Speaker A:And how to Monetize that.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:She was dropping gems, talking about, okay, if you go viral, some of the things you can do in advance is making sure, like, you have already protected your brand to the best of your ability, right?
Speaker B:Everything that you already own, maybe you've already trademarked it, maybe you already got your copyrights and all stuff that will be helpful so that when, if you do go viral, you already own the legalities to it.
Speaker B:Now, on the flip side, you can't prepare for it because sometimes the thing that goes viral is not something that you've trademarked or copyrighted.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Right, let's just say her brand was Kim, folks.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And that's what she called her people.
Speaker B:Her Kim folks.
Speaker B:But she.
Speaker B:She think everybody.
Speaker B:She feel right, like right at home, like she your cousin or something or your auntie or something like that.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So I like Kim, folks, but prepare to be sick of me.
Speaker B:May not have been trademarked because it was something she just said in the moment.
Speaker B:But what do you do?
Speaker B:How do you respond immediately having those lawyers and that and those legal teams on in place so that you can hear them get things going.
Speaker B:When she said, oh, this is catching fire.
Speaker B:People are liking this.
Speaker B:How can I get that done?
Speaker B:So she talked a lot about that, but she also talked about, don't be so afraid of, like, man, I didn't get it.
Speaker B:The legality of it and people running with it and so forth and so on.
Speaker B:Because that's really a scarcity mentality that makes you make you feel like you're not going to be able to do it again.
Speaker B:Like, at the end of the day, if I was funny today, I'll be funny another day.
Speaker B:I'll go viral again.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, like, the.
Speaker B:The time and attention and energy is going to take trying to chase down that and trying to make everybody who say that pay me some kind of way.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, you could have been and came up with something else that was.
Speaker B:That was valuable in and of itself.
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker A:I mean, because we're creatives at the end of the day, right?
Speaker A:So being a creative, we should always be creating.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, well, we may have missed the opportunity for this moment, but because we're creatives, we're going to always create and we'll create another thing.
Speaker A:If that thing can go, I can create something else that goes.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So, no, I agree with you with that scarcity mindset.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that pizza.
Speaker A:She was like, yo.
Speaker A:She was like the.
Speaker A:She did not know that was gonna go viral.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:She wasn't playing it, she was, it was just her, that's the thing, she was not creating content, she was this documenting.
Speaker A:I was just sharing my experience.
Speaker A:She said, I got this new, I got this little baby hairs, I got the baby hairs in the mail.
Speaker A:I'm about to go in and see my beautician and I was just having a moment and that's how it went viral.
Speaker A:So just go ahead.
Speaker B:Which leads to one of the first keys that she talked about is building an authentic brand.
Speaker B:She was just being her authentic self and she feels like some how you do this and how do you do this and try to craft it but there's nothing to craft there.
Speaker B:That was just her being her authentic self.
Speaker B:So if you want to know how it works from her world, that catches win better than something super crafty because people feel like that person just really cutting up and being themselves.
Speaker B:So I wanted to shout out that aspect of building an authentic brand.
Speaker B:So if you're out here and you're trying to grow your brand to the next level, think about how you can go recreate some what somebody else did.
Speaker B:Be comfortable being authentic because once it's authentic, people will believe it.
Speaker B:And if people believe it, that means they trust it.
Speaker B:And in the world of business, not necessarily creative, but in the world of entrepreneurship, which is creative entrepreneurship, people are going to buy from you if they know you, they like you and they trust you.
Speaker B:Well if you're just trying to be known viral like a whole bunch of likes and loves and hearts, but you're not going to be trusted if you're not being authentic.
Speaker B:So if they trust you, they'll buy something else from you.
Speaker B:Moving right along to something else we talked about is how does she acquire her clients, right?
Speaker B:Because she's not a personality.
Speaker B:She is great at social media, content creation, event curation.
Speaker B:Like she is a creative director.
Speaker B:So how do you attract clients and then how do you do your prices?
Speaker B:So what was something that stood out to you from that?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we know like from, from a quiet standpoint, you know, relying on her reputation and her results, right?
Speaker A:That's one of the, that's one of the big things.
Speaker A:And as a creative entrepreneur, right, you have to deliver.
Speaker A:So that's one thing she said, listen, I know I'm good at what I do, right?
Speaker A:And I'm going to get you the results that you're coming to me for.
Speaker A:So that was big.
Speaker A:And then word of mouth referrals is key.
Speaker A:So if you're delivering, you're doing a great job, people are going to Share.
Speaker A:So she has that system set up to where she has that referral system and whatnot.
Speaker A:So um, so that, that was real big.
Speaker A:And then that value based model, she definitely, she, she definitely let us know that she ain't cheap.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying, don't she?
Speaker A:If you looking for cheap, don't come to me.
Speaker A:But if you're looking for value, right, I'm the one to come to for value because I'm going to give you a phenomenal experience.
Speaker B:And she talked about helping other creative entrepreneurs figure out what your value based pricing is.
Speaker B:So if you're like, okay, I know I'm giving more value, but people still want to pay this, she gave a perfect example.
Speaker B:She can do a flyer, do a graphic design flyer.
Speaker B:But you don't just need a flyer to make your event sale.
Speaker B:You probably gonna need some marketing or you, you need some, you're gonna need some other things.
Speaker B:Like you don't just need a flyer.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker B:You need some collateral.
Speaker B:You need the signage at the, at the event.
Speaker B:All of it needs to be branded cohesively like so you don't, you need to full graphic design package.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Now once we do your packaging, right.
Speaker B:So that, so what she was saying is people come to you with what they think they want, but if you are the expert, you'll know what they need.
Speaker B:And so what you then is for you to do is to explain to them, hey, this flyer is gonna be one thing and that's what people are going to experience when they get to the event.
Speaker B:You want to keep the same level of creativity that they see on the flyer all throughout the event.
Speaker B:That's what's gonna make them really love it.
Speaker B:Because, because if they love the event, they're gonna be sharing it, posting about it, and when you get ready to do it again, they're gonna, you know, and so that's what she was talking about is figuring out how to give them value.
Speaker B:So that's a graphic designer piece.
Speaker B:But I may not say that how she said it.
Speaker B:So again, you want to go actually go check that out because she, she explained it very well and she talked about it's easy to make money once you start pricing things based on value, right?
Speaker B:She was like, so if I'm telling you how much is a sold out event worth to you, right?
Speaker B:A sold out event, what is that?
Speaker B:That would be 300 people that all bought 50 tickets, for example.
Speaker B:Okay, what is that?
Speaker B:Run 30.
Speaker B:300 times 50.
Speaker B:What's that?
Speaker A:300 times 50?
Speaker A:That's 3,000.
Speaker A:No, that's two.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker B:No, that's, that's on up there.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Yeah, he said 350.
Speaker A:He said, what was it?
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker B:300 times 300 people times 50.
Speaker A:Times 50.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's 15.
Speaker A:No, 15,000.
Speaker A:My bad.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, 15,000.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So she was saying for, so for them to have a sold out event that people love is 16,000.
Speaker B:So we already know what they want.
Speaker B:So do you have the skill set to help them have a sold out event?
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:You do the graphics, you're gonna make sure all the collateral.
Speaker B:You're gonna have the graphic behind the graphic.
Speaker B:You're gonna help them maybe even run the ad.
Speaker B:Then the follow up engagement ad.
Speaker B:They may need email stuff.
Speaker B:They may need their, this banner.
Speaker B:Like if you can get them to do all of that, they may be willing to pay you 3,000.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because it's worth 15 for them.
Speaker B:And so where they came to you for a 75 flyer, if you, if you can get them a sold out event, it costs a little more.
Speaker B:So I may not be saying how she's saying it.
Speaker B:So you definitely again want to go check that out?
Speaker B:I mean, sis talked about having a self sufficient team by hiring, I'm telling, she talking about how to hire, who to hire, making sure that you can deliver based on who you hire.
Speaker B:Like so that's another thing because she talked about integrity.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You can't just say, oh, I want to charge $3,000.
Speaker B:But you're not, you're not delivering.
Speaker B:You know, you don't want to over promise under deliver.
Speaker B:So how can I over deliver?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because that's what integrity is and that's what's going to make people want to bring you back and tell other people about you.
Speaker B:So she's all about that.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So no.
Speaker A:So definitely check that episode out then.
Speaker A:That led us to our next episode, right?
Speaker A:That was our full time versus part time entrepreneurship or creative renewership.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, we kind of both shared, you know, like you're the one out of us who's full time.
Speaker A:But even that we, we changed the verbiage where it's like, okay, when we're saying full time, it's not necessarily you're, you're spending all your time, but it's, it's fully sustained.
Speaker A:Like you're able to like your livelihood is fully sustained from your creative entrepreneurship.
Speaker A:My livelihood is partly sustained from my entrepreneur, my creativepreneurship, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So that was a Great episode because we definitely kind of, I hope, change people's perspective or broaden their perspectives when it came to the idea of part time or full time.
Speaker A:Because one of the goals as entrepreneurs is we want to be able to go part time.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:We want to be able to actually work less.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So no, we definitely, we LinkedIn.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was, that was, that was a nice little twist on it.
Speaker B:You know, shout out to the lyricists that are hosting the podcast because we think in metaphors.
Speaker B:But no, it's truthfully, when you go read any book that's about entrepreneurship, they talk about the four hour work week.
Speaker B:They talk about some people trying to work just four hours for the week.
Speaker B:Some people are just doing a four hour work day.
Speaker B:They only work four hours a day and of them don't even work on Fridays.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that mean they're working 16 hours a week and not 20.
Speaker B:And so if you're working four hours a day, five days a week, that means you're working 20 hours.
Speaker B:But they own companies, but to them that's the goal.
Speaker B:The goal is not to be full time entrepreneur.
Speaker B:So what we, what we're talking about, what Ron is saying is being able to sustain your salary.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Full time.
Speaker B:Like the, the, the, the meat of my income comes from my own company, not me working at somebody else's company as a contractor or an employee or something like that.
Speaker B:My own company, I work for me.
Speaker B:That's really what full time is.
Speaker B:Not necessarily the amount of time you put in.
Speaker B:Which means that just because I am full time, meaning that I have 8am to 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 till whenever.
Speaker B:But run.
Speaker B:Who is technically drawing part what, what some people would say is part time, he works 5pm to 9pm, 5pm to 9pm is four hours.
Speaker B:That's that same four hours that most CEOs work.
Speaker B:And they're able to make six, seven and eight figures worth of income.
Speaker B:So it's really not.
Speaker B:I only have four hours.
Speaker B:Four hours is enough.
Speaker B:So you can't, you can't look at, you can't look at people who doing it part time and be like, they ain't making no money, right?
Speaker B:Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So you gotta, you gotta think about that.
Speaker B:So that, that's something interesting to trick to, to stretch yourself if you are, if you only have part time hours.
Speaker B:I was looking at a post that Alex Hermosi posted and he said we do a lot of time wasting and basically you can go, you have 5am to 9am where you can be working on your dream 9 to 5 where you be working at your job and then you can be again five to nine where you working on your dream.
Speaker B:So that's four hours in the morning and four hours in the evening.
Speaker B:So technically that's eight, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So it's really.
Speaker B:Until you can get to the point where you're making so much money from the, the business endeavor that you've been growing that you can replace that nine to five, Right.
Speaker B:And now you have more autonomy of your schedule.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And, and that, and, and that's one thing we talked about too, was setting up those boundaries so that that can happen.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So it's going to take somebody that's going to set up boundaries that, that before time and that after time to make sure that, okay, I'm focused on working and getting tasks done.
Speaker A:I'm not being distracted, I'm not cutting the TV on, I may cut my phone off.
Speaker A:Just doing those extra step things to where you're, you're, you're, you're protecting and guard railing that time to ensure that you're getting the results that you want.
Speaker A:You know, it's all about inputs and outputs, right?
Speaker A:Your inputs determine your output.
Speaker A:So yeah, we definitely linked into that a little bit on the episode as well.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, and then we talked about systems and processes.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Ensuring that there are some systems that, that, that are, there are systems in place that is driving the business output.
Speaker B:And I know right now we're talking about a lot of words like systems and business and time management, setting boundaries and all of this has to do with being self aware and all of it has to do with having good productivity and you're not thinking about time in the context of time.
Speaker B:But we also got deep off into the pros and cons of what it means to be full time and what I have to do and, and versus what he's doing as somebody who's part time.
Speaker B:So if you want to know how we're managing that and what that looks like, I would encourage you to go check out that episode.
Speaker A:Check that episode out.
Speaker B:It's pretty transparent and it's also helpful.
Speaker A:So yeah, definitely.
Speaker A:Definitely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So on that episode that was like the first episode that we did that brought us back to the D.
Speaker A:And when we were filming, we didn't let y' all know where we was at.
Speaker A:We just was kind of filming or whatever.
Speaker A:But yeah, the first two episodes we was in Dallas.
Speaker A:The last few we were in Detroit.
Speaker A:So we were in Detroit.
Speaker A:So I had the pleasure of bringing on and introducing everybody to my.
Speaker A:My good friend Rose Fit, who I've known for.
Speaker A:I mean, it's, like, been.
Speaker A:Oh, it's been over two decades.
Speaker A:Like, I'm thinking, like, dang, I've known the road for a minute, right?
Speaker A:But like I said, when I.
Speaker A:When I met him, he was DJ Friction.
Speaker A:Well, no, when I met him, he was actually Roll.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And then I met.
Speaker A:Then he transitioned to DJ Friction.
Speaker A:Then he became Roast Bit, and then he became the owner operator of Burn Rubber.
Speaker A:And then now he's doing.
Speaker A:He's doing films.
Speaker A:He's doing movies and whatnot.
Speaker A:So just having that conversation and that.
Speaker A:Just that matriculation of.
Speaker A:Of, you know, where he started from when I first met him to where he is now.
Speaker A:And it's like, yo.
Speaker A:He like, yeah, the journey went wild.
Speaker A:Like, I loved.
Speaker A:I loved hearing how at the onset of him, when he wanted to do his sneaker boutique, Right.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It started off as a vision and an idea.
Speaker A:He wrote a business plan.
Speaker A:Not even knowing how to write a business plan.
Speaker A:He just knew, like, people write business plans.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then from there, he tried to go to a bank.
Speaker A:The bank was like, this ain't enough.
Speaker A:We need some.
Speaker A:We need some collateral.
Speaker A:Because you're trying to get a loan, you need collateral.
Speaker A:He didn't have no assets at the time, but what he did have, he had a community.
Speaker A:He had family.
Speaker A:He was able to bootstrap and go to his mom and other family members, and they were able to bring the money together.
Speaker A:His partner got money from his grandfather.
Speaker A:They was able to galvanize and bring the money together to start their business.
Speaker A:So that was.
Speaker A:That hearing that story was just phenomenal.
Speaker A:And just that having that vision, but then that fortitude to kind of see it through.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then, you know, one of the things that people are thinking like, nancy, I don't have people like that that's in my life that's gonna help me bootstrap or that's gonna give me the money.
Speaker B:You know, one thing he did have, he had a business plan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, you know, the people in your world may be willing to help if they feel like you have a plan.
Speaker B:Like, other than that, they just kind of feel like they're giving you money for what.
Speaker B:So that's just something to consider.
Speaker B:And it was very inspiring to see that because he had somewhat of a plan.
Speaker B:He said he don't think the plan was, like, even all of that, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because he took it into a bank and he was like.
Speaker B:They were like, okay, thanks for your business plan, but whatever.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But the fact that he had one, I think that that goes.
Speaker B:That says something.
Speaker B:And I, I would like to encourage a lot of creative entrepreneurs to follow the Robit model.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Rose Fit, as we begin to talk about.
Speaker B:He didn't.
Speaker A:He didn't.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He went through all these matriculations of creativity, but he owned.
Speaker B:He owns sneaker stories.
Speaker B:Well, not just sneaker stores.
Speaker B:Like, it's a shoe and apparel.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:In both of these stores.
Speaker B:So he owns these stores and he's like a full on creative as.
Speaker B:As far as being an artist and an actor.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But he owns these stores.
Speaker B:And so if you want to own something, you want to have something solid, you got to have some structure there.
Speaker B:So I want to encourage you to have a business plan.
Speaker B:Think strategic.
Speaker B:What is my business if you don't know exactly what it is?
Speaker B:Like, I'm just this creative person.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But if I had to turn one of these things into a store, especially that's gonna be brick and mortar.
Speaker B:You don't need your business plan.
Speaker B:So if you don't have one, get you one.
Speaker B:And if you.
Speaker B:And if you like, I need help with that, then I encourage you to hit up run ironically, Junior, AKA my co host, because he is great at helping people have vision, clarity.
Speaker B:Keep it.
Speaker B:Let's keep it going on road.
Speaker B:Let's give him a few things that Roe dropped and we'll keep it moving.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He mentioned, you know, using the.
Speaker A:The rich dare, rich dad, poor dad as an influence in his career choices.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So that was one of the books that he read.
Speaker A:So you know me, I'm a big advocate on, on reading.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I was just talking to somebody the other day and I was like, oh, that's what it was.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I was going through my journal, my old.
Speaker A: I found an old journal from: Speaker A:Long story short, I.
Speaker A:Something in me was like, if you don't know something, read a book, right?
Speaker A:The information is in a book, right?
Speaker A:So that was, that was his thing is like, I didn't know how to do this.
Speaker A:So I read this book and that kind of helped to kind of springboard certain things and have certain mentality.
Speaker A:Like I said, that whole ownership piece, right?
Speaker A:It's like, okay, I want to own something.
Speaker A:And that's what, you know, the difference between us and them are, you know, is being able to own.
Speaker A:So that was one of the things that Kind of definitely stood out when he was talking about his experience reading that book and how that kind of flipped that light switch.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He also talked about being from the D, Detroit, you know, how to be clarified.
Speaker B:Not from the big D, you know, Dallas, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But being from Detroit and how is it Big Sean is from there.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:And, and so he was saying, or some of his, I can't remember if it was Big Sean, but some of his other rap buddies that he knew that were like kind of kicking past the underground world into the mainstream world where like, oh, but you got a store though.
Speaker B:And he like a real popping.
Speaker B:Your artist career is popping.
Speaker B:He like, they like, yeah, but you got a solid something.
Speaker B:And he didn't.
Speaker B:He was like, that's what made me realize I should stick with this because this is solid.
Speaker B:Because at the end of the day, they want to make that money to eventually go back and own something.
Speaker B:If you listen to most especially in the music world, these artists, even people who are even in other non musical creative endeavors, when they do get to the pinnacle of the financial success that they're looking for, they don't want to just stay within that craft.
Speaker B:They're going to go on something.
Speaker B:Most musicians own some kind of restaurant back home or some kind of retail store back home or some kind of record shop or something that, that is a business that runs like true business with a true target market and it's not contingent upon all the things that music is contingent upon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Or their creativity is contingent upon.
Speaker B:And so anyway, I, I think that that's, that's interesting that he didn't have to go be the pinnacle of success with his rap career, but he still has something solid that his other rappers were like, bro, I want one of those.
Speaker B:I need a store.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, so that was solid.
Speaker B:So anyway, if you are, you're a creative entrepreneur, you have a sol idea and you have this other creative endeavor, go ro.
Speaker B:Spit route.
Speaker B:Because now he says, and, and I'll say this, and you have to go watch the episode because again, it's his story to tell and he's the one that owns the two stories, the two stores not running out.
Speaker B:But he says that it used to be a time where the store wasn't sustaining most of his income.
Speaker B:He was sustaining most of his income from his other creative endeavors.
Speaker B:And he was taking care of the store.
Speaker B:Well, now the store takes care of 80 to 90% of his income.
Speaker B:He draws salary from that.
Speaker B:And he doesn't even have to work at there as often because he's not even in the store because he has employees that work there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Which means now the store, that thing that he was working on while everybody else career was popping, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like that if they, if they career not popping no more, because a lot of these names you don't even know no more.
Speaker B:Because if you, once you lose that little 15 seconds of fame, it's over with.
Speaker B:They got to go try to find something.
Speaker B:He already has something that's sustaining his income.
Speaker B:Not just his income, other employees income.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he now has the freedom to wake up every day and write or go and pursue this acting and all the other things that he wants to do with sing and all other stuff.
Speaker B:So anyway, I just, I, I just wanted to say that.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, no, that's good.
Speaker A:That's, that, that's, that's good.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, we, we're moving on.
Speaker A:But no, I, I, I, that was one of my favorite episodes.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It was, it was, he was, he was definitely dropping jams and just hearing that journey.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, we'll go on to the next episode with.
Speaker B:You know how, like you said, this is one of your favorite episodes, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:With Rose Spit.
Speaker B:Well, Kim was one of my favorite episodes.
Speaker B:And Ro as well.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, I always say that about all of them.
Speaker B:I feel like, oh, I'm excited about this episode.
Speaker B:The reason why is because Kim kicks you a little, little information about your, like your legalities, like your contracts and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Ro talked about intellectual property.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because he has two stores, but they have two different names.
Speaker B:Even though they're all a part of one umbrella, they have two different names for, for a very important reason.
Speaker B:When we say IP with me, intellectual property.
Speaker B:And so how he came to own the store was an acquisition.
Speaker B:But the second store he's, he owned, it wasn't acquisition.
Speaker B:He started it outright.
Speaker B:And so he had to.
Speaker B:Okay, now you have to figure out how much IP you own versus.
Speaker B:And so intellectual property is something that you have to consider as a creative entrepreneur.
Speaker B:If you're, if you're going into partnership with people, if it's something that you're creating on your own, like this is your ip.
Speaker B:Learn what IP is if you do not know what IP is.
Speaker B:So that's why I like the episode as well.
Speaker B:So you got to go watch it.
Speaker B:So, okay.
Speaker A:So next we, we had the episode, episode 21 with Jane and McDougal she is the owner of the Printheads.
Speaker A:It's a phenomenal apparel shop that's here in, in, in metro Detroit.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:She, she just doesn't do T shirts.
Speaker A:She does embroidery and things like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it was, it's.
Speaker A:She, she just kind of talked about how she was in corporate America, right?
Speaker A:And she went from being in corporate.
Speaker A:Now mind you, she's a creative.
Speaker A:And I said a lot of you all are creatives in corporate.
Speaker B:Corporate.
Speaker A:So she was a creative incorporate who kind of suppressed that creative side of her while she's in there.
Speaker A:She, I think she was in a financial world or whatever the case may be, but it was something that she just wanted to do was like, no, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna start a business.
Speaker A:And she, at that time, she didn't even know what it was.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But she talked to her husband.
Speaker A:That's, that's important of having a, a support, a support team, support systems.
Speaker A:I talked to my husband, he was like, we'll do it.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Let's get it.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker A:First, she jumped out.
Speaker A:She jumped.
Speaker A:Now listen, I don't necessarily encourage everybody to leap, right?
Speaker A:That was her journey, which I, she just leaked.
Speaker A:I didn't have no plan in place.
Speaker A:I had no back.
Speaker A:I just leaked.
Speaker B:Right, let's be clear.
Speaker B:She was previously in finance in corporate.
Speaker B:So she's a high wage earner, right?
Speaker B:So being a high wage earner means you're walking away from a lot of money.
Speaker B:But that also means you probably have more disposable income than the average American.
Speaker B:So you probably have a nice little savings account.
Speaker B:You probably have a nice little 401k package.
Speaker B:So she probably had a.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:She might have had.
Speaker B:And of course she has our support system, which the husband says go ahead and go, but I think that's something to be considered if you, if you're like not super duper gainfully employed like your employee, you're just making enough.
Speaker B:Make ends meet when you step out there, you ain't.
Speaker B:You're not going to have that much of a Runway from savings versus if she's a corporate person.
Speaker B:And maybe she was six figures.
Speaker B:I can't remember if.
Speaker B:What if she said, but if, if you, if somebody is six figures, you should be saving a nice little chunk of change every, every single month, every single check.
Speaker B:So your cushion may look different, but it's still gonna be a leap nonetheless.
Speaker B:I just wanted to put that out there, you know.
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker A:And she encouraged, he said, I don't encourage Y' all to do what I did.
Speaker A:She was like, I took that leap, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And listen, I encourage my clients all the time is create you, that, that, that, that financial bridge, right?
Speaker A:Like, don't just, don't just take the leap.
Speaker A:Create a, a bridge and a plan and start working towards it.
Speaker A:Because like you said, you, you never know in entrepreneurship.
Speaker A:Like I said, you got ups and downs, right?
Speaker A:Sometimes, especially in the beginning, you have a lot more downs than up.
Speaker A:So you want to have something that can sustain you.
Speaker A:So build while you're still gainfully employed.
Speaker A:Utilize the money from your employment to fund your vision.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's, that's simple.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Okay, that's simple.
Speaker B:It's, it's too easy.
Speaker B:So try to do it like that.
Speaker B:Okay, so, so Janet was dropping gyms.
Speaker B:She talked about, and I'm gonna go back.
Speaker B:She talked about having centers of influence.
Speaker B:That was a word she kept saying.
Speaker B:If you go back and listen to her talk about centers of influence, that is, she had target specific people.
Speaker B:There were individuals that she wanted to go network and connect with and build partnership with.
Speaker B:Those are her sensors of influence.
Speaker B:And she may explain it a little bit better.
Speaker B:So you have to go check that out.
Speaker B:So, and, and so she was like, I can't try to reach everybody, but if I can get a few people, like if I can get these people right here, this is where a great book of business will come from.
Speaker B:And I know she talked about getting, she talked about how she went from the, like her basement, right, and her small machine to now having this, what is it, 10,000 square feet?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:10,000 square feet.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:A corner of a basement to 10,000 square feet, right?
Speaker B:That's crazy, right?
Speaker B:So, but she didn't start out at 10, 000 square feet.
Speaker B:And a lot of people just want to start out at 10,000, start there.
Speaker B:And that's, and that's just, that's just wild.
Speaker B:But even though she was in the basement, she just kept growing and adjusting, growing and adjusting, growing and adjusting.
Speaker B:And every time she grew from the basement to like a bigger, to like a small office, to it.
Speaker B:From the small office to the next place.
Speaker B:Like she adjusted her back end.
Speaker B:Like when I say back in.
Speaker B:What are your systems?
Speaker B:The systems you need in place for like a small little one person print machine is not the same.
Speaker B:For like, okay, you're a printer, you, you print shirts, okay.
Speaker B:But you're probably not doing embroidery yet.
Speaker B:You're probably not doing all the different print styles yet.
Speaker B:You're just Doing one heat press, eventually going to move to DTG and all the screen printing and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker B:So you're going to wind up needing more space.
Speaker B:Well, it's because you're probably fulfilling more orders.
Speaker B:And once you at the small machine, you're probably doing 10 to 25 shirts.
Speaker B:25 to 100, maybe on one one machine, you're probably taking payments a certain way.
Speaker B:But then once you get an invoice for 500 shirts, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That's different.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker B:Oh, see, now I use the word invoice because you was probably just taking cash payments for 25 shirts.
Speaker B:Oh, doing your bachelorette party all.
Speaker B:Or your bachelor bachelor party.
Speaker B:I'll see y' all want shirts and he.
Speaker B:The groom got you on that.
Speaker B:But then once I get to the point where somebody wants this whole.
Speaker B:The whole YMCA or the whole boys and girls club, we want you to make shirts for all of them.
Speaker B:Right now I need more machinery now.
Speaker B:I need to be able to send an invoice and I need to be able to.
Speaker B:I can't just wait.
Speaker B:I can't go buy all the shirts myself, right?
Speaker B:If.
Speaker B:If it, if it's just.
Speaker B:If it's just six people, I can just go buy them shirts up front in my cash.
Speaker B:I get the money on the back end.
Speaker B:But if I'm going to get 500 shirts, I don't know if I want to go spend $2,000 on shirts.
Speaker B:I need to be able to invoice you for the first.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Or deposit.
Speaker B:So now your system changing.
Speaker B:So you have to think about that as a creative entrepreneur.
Speaker B:As you begin to grow your system, the way you operate, your business in the back office has to grow with you, and it has to change.
Speaker B:And she just kept being willing to make those adjustments, and she talked about what those adjustments look like.
Speaker B:So if you're somebody who's interested in going from this small thing to this 10, 000 square feet and you want to know what those adjustments are, check out this episode.
Speaker B:Check it out.
Speaker A:Definitely.
Speaker A:And you know, you know, one of the things too in that is she talked about that delegation and that and.
Speaker A:And vision piece, right, where it's like, once again, in order to scale it, she can't do it by herself.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So she had to be able to delegate to other people to assist her in the process.
Speaker A:So that's gonna be big, right?
Speaker A:It's like, yes, as a creative, a lot of times we like, this is mine.
Speaker A:This is my baby.
Speaker A:This is me.
Speaker A:And we hold on to it.
Speaker A:But in order for it to grow in scale, Right.
Speaker A:You're gonna have to find other people that you can bring along to support you in that vision.
Speaker A:And that goes back to what Rose Spit was saying as far as him have, or what should I was saying about Rose Spit having that business plan.
Speaker A:The scripture talks about writing the vision and making it plain so those who take it write it on tablets so those who take it can run with it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You're not writing it down necessarily for yourself, though.
Speaker A:It's good to write it down for yourself to remind you.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But you're taking it down so that you can bring other people on to help bring it, make it bigger.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:They say you want to go fast, go alone, but you want to go further, do it together.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then there was one last piece that she talked about in this episode, which is making this one of my favorite ones too.
Speaker B:See, this is where I can't pick a favorite is because she talked about something nobody else has mentioned in all, I would say three seasons.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:We're.
Speaker B:We're three seasons.
Speaker B:Shout out to three seasons.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:She talked about creating a non profit entity that's also tied to her creative basis.
Speaker B:So she, she produced a six figure creative based business that then became a seven figure creative based business that's actually experiencing sometimes six figure months.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And after you're making all that money, at some point you have to start thinking, what could I be doing for.
Speaker B:How can I give back?
Speaker B:And her way of giving back is to take this same skill that she used to generate all this revenue for herself, her company, her employees, and her, her legacy, you know, and her, her lineage and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker B:And to start saying, I want to teach young people how to work in this print world, not just heat press, not just DTG embroidery.
Speaker B:How do we do that?
Speaker B:How do we stitch, how do we do all these different styles, different shirts, clothing material, hats, band.
Speaker B:Like this is a skill set that I can give them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She didn't want to necessarily have to charge them in the same way she would if you, if it was a for profit business.
Speaker B:And so she created the Printheads University.
Speaker B:And so I, I love that because a lot of creative entrepreneurs are thinking like, I'm trying to start this business, this business, this business.
Speaker B:I got this llc.
Speaker B:But some of you guys may need to also be considering starting a nonprofit so that you can actually serve in a different capacity.
Speaker B:And if not starting a nonprofit, going to partner with a nonprofit.
Speaker B:So that you can help add an entity or division to what they're doing so that you can serve a group of people.
Speaker B:And then of course, there is a business benefit to all of that as somewhere in there.
Speaker B:So she really dropped the gym.
Speaker B:But I just wanted to shout out to the integral side of like wanting to help and give back.
Speaker B:But there is still a benefit to having that once you get to those levels of income.
Speaker B:So I, I'm not, I'm not your tax advisor.
Speaker B:We are here to expire.
Speaker B:We are here today.
Speaker A:Put it out there.
Speaker B:Listen to strategy, structure and self development.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And so this is a strategy as well that she dropped in this episode.
Speaker B:So by eventually creating this nonprofit organization that's still based around creativity.
Speaker B:So it's not just a creative based business, it's a creative based nonprofit organization.
Speaker B:And I love that.
Speaker B:And so you got your strategy with her.
Speaker B:She talked about her pricing models, how she come.
Speaker B:I mean, she talked about so much and it's so amazing to see the company that she own and she's still innovating and creating other things because the company runs itself now.
Speaker B:So if you're interested in that, I'm telling you, you definitely want to go check out that episode.
Speaker B:And even if you say, I'm not interested in print, go back and watch the entire season three.
Speaker B:Not just because it's gonna run up the numbers for running out, but because, listen, it's gyms in there.
Speaker B:So if you working out, put that podcast in.
Speaker B:If you're in the car, put that podcast on and listen to the next episode because I'm sure you're going to be able to listen to and squeeze something out of what each person said.
Speaker B:And you ain't got to squeeze hard because they was just readily dropping the gems.
Speaker A:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And that takes us to our next episode, right?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:So this is for the people who are in the coaching space, like me, me and Shy.
Speaker A:You know, I'm saying, though, we have our creative, you know, in the music and things like that.
Speaker A:We, we also coach, right.
Speaker A:We also mentor and whatnot.
Speaker A:So we had the, the pleasure of talking to Safana Samples, who is a relationship coach.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And that episode was.
Speaker A:Was good.
Speaker A:That what I loved about Safana is she's polished and she's seasoned, right.
Speaker A:She know how to communicate and articulate that thing.
Speaker A:Like, I was like, okay, I'm taking notes right now.
Speaker A:Mind you, she was talking about the business stuff too, but just how she positioned what, what, who she is and what she does and who she serves.
Speaker A:How she positioned that the entire interview.
Speaker A:That was a master class.
Speaker B:Master class.
Speaker B:It was the simplicity of it all.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And the thing, the reason why that was so cool is because a lot of creatives, like we talked about, have all these various different things that they want to do and that they are doing.
Speaker B:So it's hard for them to simplify.
Speaker B:But she had her so dialed in.
Speaker B:And it wasn't that she was only doing one thing.
Speaker B:There are multiple layers to what she was doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But she had a cohesive brand in her and being able to explain what you do.
Speaker B:Like, I just do a lot of stuff.
Speaker B:Nah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You need to learn how to talk about what you do.
Speaker B:If you really want to be minding your creative business, sit down and apply your mind on how to explain what it is I do in the way Safana samples do.
Speaker B:Who is Savannah?
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:She is the lady who was on episode number 22.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:She was episode number 22 of the Mind of my creative business podcast.
Speaker B:You want to go watch that even if you're not a coach.
Speaker B:But let's get into some of the gems she dropped.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So like I said, she.
Speaker A:She talked about being the importance of preparation.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's like she was very meticulous in how she approached the scheduling that ensures that she delivers top notch coaching without burnout.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because she does a lot.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She mentioned that, you know, she's a mom.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:She's in.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She's a student, she's a coach, she's an author.
Speaker A:So she late.
Speaker A:She mentioned all these different aspects to her, but she says she don't believe in.
Speaker A:What was it balancing?
Speaker A:She's like, no, I don't believe in, you know, balancing my schedule.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:She said, I do believe in managing it.
Speaker A:I do believe in prioritizing things.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But it's like, you can't.
Speaker A:Things are going to be out of balance.
Speaker A:There's certain seasons that require for more time.
Speaker A:She's like, you know, by her.
Speaker A:She having an adult child now, she was like, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm still parenting my son, but it's different.
Speaker A:I'm not so hands on as I was when he was younger, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So it's like, now I have to safeguard my time.
Speaker A:So just as creatives, that's what I tell.
Speaker A:But, you know, whenever I talk to any of my clients, I say, you don't have a time management.
Speaker A:You have an issue.
Speaker A:Like, you don't got a time Management issue.
Speaker A:You have a time priority issue.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You have to start prioritizing your time accordingly.
Speaker A:So that's the difference.
Speaker A:So she kind of was like, that's what she was hitting on.
Speaker A:It's like, no, I prioritize my time accordingly.
Speaker A:She was like, I only take a certain amount of clients a year.
Speaker A:There's like, certain, certain times of this, of the year, my books are open for being able to, to book me to come and speak.
Speaker A:And sometimes my books are closed where you can't book me because I'm prioritizing my time towards my, my schooling or I'm prioritizing my time towards my clients and things like that.
Speaker A:So that was a, that was a huge takeaway for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it actually draws me back to one of our previous episodes when we were talking about really time management, and she, she really was so eloquently saying that we have to have energy management.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker B:We said it's time priority, but it's like, how do I manage my energy?
Speaker B:And so, and if you really want to manage your energy, especially as a creative, you have to have that space to create, then you have to have that space to mind your creative business.
Speaker B:And so with that being said, you actually have to manage your energy because you have to have a certain energy that you bring to this admin side.
Speaker B:You have to have a certain energy that you bring to a podcast interview.
Speaker B:You have to have a certain energy that you bring when you go into go speak, when you're going to do a workshop, when you're going to present showcase exhibit, whatever it is that you're doing.
Speaker B:It takes energy.
Speaker B:And so you have to manage that well.
Speaker B:So I love what she was talking about, about that.
Speaker B:And I also like the fact that she has a team, like, she has an assistant.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That does certain things.
Speaker B:And, and I'm sure that with Printhead, there's, there's plenty of employees there, but that they're, they work for print heads.
Speaker B:But Safana spoke as if she had her own, like, assistant.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So there's something to be said for a personal assistant, especially for somebody who is in the coaching space.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You need to have somebody can, who can help your company but help you along the way, and that's going to help you with that time management.
Speaker B:Some people are trying to do everything by themselves.
Speaker B:You can't, you just can't do it all by yourself.
Speaker B:Yeah, you might need to go get you an assistant.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, she definitely gave, she gave praises to that, to that virtual assistant, to that va.
Speaker A:That, that she had.
Speaker A:And we talked about like the skill set that that VA comes with with.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because you just don't want any va, Right.
Speaker A:You want the right VA and this VA she said she came pre downloaded with multiple skill sets that she's able to just turn things over to her and let her just kind of do so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And even with that, you know, MMCB or you know, our, our sister company, System Savant, you know, that's, you know, we got, it's some stuff coming, right.
Speaker A:So we are ready for that.
Speaker A:There's some stuff cooking.
Speaker B:It's cooking.
Speaker B:We got a software in the works for the creative entrepreneur, if you want to know.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you.
Speaker B:Wait, wait for it, Wait for it.
Speaker A:I just want to at least put it out there, at least let y' all know, like, listen, we got the, we got this, the strategy, structure and self development piece, but we got some other stuff too that we, we want to support y' all with.
Speaker A:So just know.
Speaker B:And one of the things that we can talk about is has it was this season.
Speaker B:Season three was brought to you by credit savants.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that is, we want to have a software that's specifically for creative entrepreneurs because you need a tool that you can help run this to help you mind your creative business.
Speaker B:But you also sometimes just need funding.
Speaker B:And so credit savant IO is all you have to do.
Speaker B:You'd have to type that in credit savant IO and you'd be able to go find funding, business funding for your creative based business.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:A lot of times people like, I want to get into that business created.
Speaker B:I heard about that.
Speaker B:And how do I do it?
Speaker B:Well, we own part of this company and this company is going to walk you hand in hand to go get funding for your creative based business.
Speaker B:That was what this episode kept saying.
Speaker B:Season three is brought to you by credit Savant.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So credit savant is so that we can help creative entrepreneurs go get the business funding and the capital that they really need to boost their business.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right, so on that note, so the last episode prior to this live one was episode 23.
Speaker A:And we had the pleasure of doing a case study episode, right?
Speaker A:We did a case study episode season two with Walt Disney and Steve Jobs.
Speaker A:This season we did some contemporaries in the creative entrepreneur space.
Speaker A:And we did case studies on the Russell and his company good his and his company, a brand good company.
Speaker A:And then Pinky Cole and her company, slutty vegan.
Speaker A:And you all may have seen, you know, Pinky Cole in in social media news as of late.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So just the timing of everything was kind of perfect to be able to highlight her.
Speaker A:And just the, The.
Speaker A:The beauty of the episode focused on being able to sell out without selling out.
Speaker A:So being true to you, and we mentioned this earlier, being authentic with Kim Jenkins, being authentic in who you are, keeping your creative integrity, but also being able to sell your products.
Speaker A:Sell them out.
Speaker A:Not sell out your soul, but selling out your products.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, shout out to lyricists that are co hosts at the same time.
Speaker B:But no, seriously, I think a lot of times people think if I want to go commercial, if I want to go big, I'm probably going to lose the integrity of what I'm doing.
Speaker B:I'm probably not going.
Speaker B:It's not going to have the quality anymore, or I'm just gonna go for.
Speaker B:I'm trying to sell out.
Speaker B:I'm trying to get the bang for my book.
Speaker B:I'm trying to make the most money.
Speaker B:And they're willing to, like, sell out.
Speaker B:But there's.
Speaker B:There's a way of going about it.
Speaker B:And I think that the Russell embodies that with good company as an entrepreneur.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So he's an independent artist.
Speaker B:He is, but he owns his own label or creative agency or I'm not sure, whatever he's calling it.
Speaker B:But it is a unique approach to make sure that the funding is there and it come from somewhere.
Speaker B:And he doesn't necessarily have to sell out while he's trying to be an independent artist.
Speaker B:For him, selling out, we'll try to be going to one of these labels that's really just gonna shelf him or just really gonna kind of drain all of his money or whatever it is he thinks is going to happen or not even value him at the way he wants to be valued.
Speaker B:He wants to go direct to consumer who actually value and let them pay and have partnership in the company.
Speaker B:And it's a very cool business model.
Speaker B:Not necessarily like, go, go listen to the Russell for the.
Speaker B:The artistry.
Speaker B:You may not even, like, rap, you know, I mean, you.
Speaker B:I'm talking about looking at how he structured Good Company and that's what we talked about in this episode.
Speaker B:So you want to actually check it, check it out, because we really unpack and peel back those later layers.
Speaker B:And then as far as, like, selling out, it's so interesting because Pinky Cole invited so many investors in.
Speaker B:And so now she's talking about how once you do that, there's a sellout that's on the other side of that.
Speaker B:And so Ultimately, that's something that any creative entrepreneur, whether you're just getting started or whether you are.
Speaker B:I don't know, maybe not just.
Speaker B:Just getting started.
Speaker B:Maybe you're in this place where you're like, okay, I'm about to scale and I'm about to expand, and I need to start bringing in investors.
Speaker B:But at some point there has to be a stop, because once you start selling out, then, you know what I'm saying, you've lost the integrity of the creativity that you came up with.
Speaker B:And so ultimately, yeah, I just wanna.
Speaker B:I wanna encourage you to get those investors, but also make sure that you are more focusing on not selling out, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not selling out the creativity so that you can.
Speaker B:But still being able to have the financial success that you're looking for.
Speaker A:Definitely.
Speaker A:Definitely.
Speaker A:You know, when we kind of touched on the Russell's Good, Good Company model, where he has a model where you pay what you can, right?
Speaker A:And he was.
Speaker A:I just saw another.
Speaker A:I saw, you know, him doing an interview, and he was just talking about how it's allowed people to come into, like, shows for, like, a dollar, right?
Speaker A:My man was like, all I got is a dollar.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, we take the dollar because somebody else paid a thousand, right?
Speaker A:So it balances it out, right?
Speaker A:He was like, yo, this was the best show I ever had and I paid a dollar for it.
Speaker A:I wouldn't have been able to come see you.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So he was just saying how that model has been beneficial to everybody involved, right?
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:It's a win.
Speaker A:Win.
Speaker A:It's a win for.
Speaker A:For the audience because you got some people that want to pay more, right?
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If I.
Speaker A:If I can.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If you trap me into this 50 model where it's like, okay, I want to pick.
Speaker A:Come see you for $50.
Speaker A:That's all I can pay, but I want to pay you more.
Speaker A:And then you got some people like, dang, I ain't got 50.
Speaker A:I can't even go see him.
Speaker A:So he's able to now.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:Pay what you want and it balances it out.
Speaker A:Then that's just.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's his adult model, Right, Right.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker A:No, go ahead.
Speaker A:No, sir.
Speaker B:Yes, I'll say.
Speaker B:Yeah, but.
Speaker B:And there's also a partnership model on the other side of that business.
Speaker B:So why you have to pay what you want?
Speaker B:There are some people who are paid into a partnership, and I think that that's the new.
Speaker B:If I had to put my prophetic.
Speaker B:Whatever, seer futuristic guesstimation, best guess, whatever you want to put on it.
Speaker B:Like, if you have to put all of that on it.
Speaker B:I think where we're going in the future is partnership models.
Speaker B:Not necessarily investors coming in and having this ownership, but partners coming in and investing in it.
Speaker B:And they have a small stake in it.
Speaker B:They own.
Speaker B:They own part of it.
Speaker B:They don't have as much of a voice to try to control.
Speaker B:They like it as already what it is.
Speaker B:I don't need a voice.
Speaker B:I just want to have a little piece of ownership and about.
Speaker B:A little piece of ownership, maybe 5%, you know, ownership, 4%, 2%.
Speaker B:They just want to own what you're already doing.
Speaker B:Or sometimes an investor says, I'm giving you 50 of the money you need.
Speaker B:I need a voice.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And so now they may start taking it a different way.
Speaker B:And so I really think that that's what we're going.
Speaker B:And a lot of creative entrepreneurs, if you watch me right now, start wrapping your mind around everybody that's around you and who you're trying to work with.
Speaker B:How can we create a partnership model with this?
Speaker B:How can they own some equity in what I'm building?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And yeah, I'm tr.
Speaker B:It's some right there.
Speaker B:It's some sauce on it, I'm telling you.
Speaker A:I hear you.
Speaker A:And even just going back to Pinky in this episode, how we kind of highlighted just like her marketing strategy, right?
Speaker A:She was very clear in her branding and her marketing and who it was for.
Speaker A:And this.
Speaker A:I was just saying, like, I never saw a restaurant do, like, going a tour, right?
Speaker A:It's like slutty vegan.
Speaker A:When they was on.
Speaker A:They was on tour, they was popping up shots everywhere across the U.S.
Speaker A:yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker A:And that was.
Speaker A:That was ingenious because it was like, then you, instead of you just having this local brand, right now, you have a national brand and an international brand because you took advantage of social media, you took advantage of being able to just kind of have this brand aware.
Speaker A:It's like, like we was talking about on the episode.
Speaker A:It's like it's.
Speaker A:She was marketing it not even necessarily to vegans.
Speaker A:She was marketing it to non vegans.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Initially, when she first came out, her whole model was here, let me have non vegans taste this vegan burger and.
Speaker A:And tell me how good it is.
Speaker B:Yeah, not.
Speaker B:Yeah, look, evangelistic model, right?
Speaker B:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:But no, she was just like, exposing people to a different option.
Speaker B:And I think that was pretty cool.
Speaker B:And then, of course, for the vegans if they want to have a cheat day and just kind of eat sloppy and have some comfort food, then you can have you some slutty vegan.
Speaker B:And she drove the name home all the way.
Speaker B:So anyway, I'm very interested to see what that brand is going to be because it's come to a certain point right now at, right at the time of this episode that we're recording this.
Speaker B:And so it's very interesting to see.
Speaker B:But I, I do.
Speaker B:We did a case study on it.
Speaker B:Again, I, I think you should go.
Speaker B:There's still so much to be studied.
Speaker B:So like, even if a company, to me, even if a company doesn't last forever, there's still things to be studied within the company for the time frame that they last.
Speaker B:So, for example, Blockbuster, if you're old enough to know what Blockbuster is, it's a company that lasted for many years.
Speaker B:It's still interesting to go see what was working, what went well, what didn't go well.
Speaker B:Where were the peaks and where were the valleys?
Speaker B:And you can still glean something from Blockbuster.
Speaker B:But a company that doesn't exist and apply to your company today and have success.
Speaker B:How do I know this?
Speaker B:Because Warren Buffett actually reads like the charts of what happened with companies over the years.
Speaker B:He, he watches their P and Ls and see what was actually going on.
Speaker B:Like, he watches it year over year and I'm looking at the trends.
Speaker B:So, oh, I see a dip here or a spike here.
Speaker B:What happened?
Speaker B:And once I go hear the story, that thing worked.
Speaker B:That kid.
Speaker B:So there's something to it, I'm telling you.
Speaker B:So, yeah, you definitely want to go check out the case studies that we did there.
Speaker B:I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm excited to be on season three and I'm excited about what we're going to be doing for season four.
Speaker B:We're kind of like upgrading the equipment.
Speaker B:Come on, four.
Speaker B:We are turning four.
Speaker B:We, when we, when we get to season five, ain't nobody going to be able to tell me nothing.
Speaker B:Prepare to be sick of me.
Speaker B:Like, no.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But season four, I'm excited about it, but I thought it was worth, and we thought it was worth recapping season three in case you missed it.
Speaker B:And you want to know which episode should you really go tap in?
Speaker B:You should have heard about it here.
Speaker B:You could have chimed in with us.
Speaker B:We didn't see a lot of people chiming in.
Speaker B:I did see my good friend Michael Bethany chime in.
Speaker B:He is an amazing artist, producer, a mentor, man, creative Director himself.
Speaker B:He is even a podcaster as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, we need to have him on.
Speaker B:Yeah, we need to have him on here.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Let's get it.
Speaker A:Let's get it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So anyway, so we didn't see a lot of people, you guys chiming in as far as on the live.
Speaker B:So if you're listening to this replay, you're actually getting a good straight episode without us doing a whole bunch of shout outs.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Right, we want to shout you out.
Speaker B:So when we get to the end of season four, please join us live.
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Speaker B:Sure, you can go be in a regular entrepreneurship group, but I guarantee you they're going to be in there talking about car sales and all kind of other stuff that may or may not be applicable to you.
Speaker B:You want to be locked in with creative entrepreneurs and so that's why we created the community.
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Speaker B:Did I say it right?
Speaker B:I said the creative scorner.
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Speaker A:Do.
Speaker A:Do those things.
Speaker A:Okay, and on that note, we about to get out of here.
Speaker A:I need you to take us out like you always take us out, man.
Speaker B:We gotta hit you with the mantra even in the live joint.
Speaker B:And before I say that, we could not have gotten to season three without you.
Speaker B:So thank you, thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you so much for.
Speaker B:For listening in, for tuning in.
Speaker B:We see you guys downloading the podcast and listening to it.
Speaker B:We see you watching on YouTube again.
Speaker B:We want you to subscribe though now.
Speaker B:But we just thank you for listening and be a spreader, like Ron said.
Speaker B:Share it with at least one other creative entrepreneur that's trying to be on their business too.
Speaker B:But thank you for everything that you've done with.
Speaker B:For us so far, and we're going to keep this thing going.
Speaker B:Now, before we get out of every episode, we always make sure we end with this mantra.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:So I want you guys to repeat after me.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:Here we go.
Speaker B:All it takes.
Speaker B:All it takes is intention.
Speaker A:Intention.
Speaker B:Oh, Ron.
Speaker B:Looking at me like, does she notice?
Speaker B:Did she notice?
Speaker B:That's what you.
Speaker B:That's why you looking like.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Say the.
Speaker B:Say the mantra.
Speaker B:And now this way you're looking at me.
Speaker B:I can see.
Speaker B:I can see it in your eyes.
Speaker B:You don't believe that I notice.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:Is that what you're thinking?
Speaker A:Listen, I believe.
Speaker A:I know you know it.
Speaker A:The thing is.
Speaker A:Do you remember it?
Speaker B:I remember it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:All it takes is intention, creativity, and pop and.
Speaker B:Oh, it's one more.
Speaker B:I actually don't.
Speaker A:Oh, it's laser focus.
Speaker A:It's intentional.
Speaker A:It's intentional laser focus.
Speaker A:But it ain't.
Speaker A:But it's one more.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:To mind my creative business.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker B:Oh, wait a minute.
Speaker B:You saying something?
Speaker A:No, I'm waiting on you to say it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, cool.
Speaker B:Let's get it.
Speaker B:Here we go.
Speaker B:Here we go with this mantra that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That I.
Speaker B:I'm over here, like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker B:I think run.
Speaker B:Don't think.
Speaker B:I know it.
Speaker B:Which is making.
Speaker B:Making me feel like I don't know it, but I know I know it because I made it up.
Speaker B:So here we go.
Speaker B:You ready?
Speaker A:I'm ready.
Speaker B:Run.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker B:Don't do it like that.
Speaker A:Hold on, let me.
Speaker A:I got you.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:I can't leave you out here to drive.
Speaker B:You can't leave me out here.
Speaker A:Let me see one word.
Speaker B:I know I need to know it.
Speaker B:Where my word at?
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Where.
Speaker A:Where is it at?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I haven't said this mantra in a long time.
Speaker A:I didn't put up the wrong thing.
Speaker A:I didn't put up the wrong thing.
Speaker A:Hold on, let me see.
Speaker B:Oh, oh, oh.
Speaker A:It's like, listen.
Speaker A:Y' all know it's live.
Speaker A:You got it, huh?
Speaker A:You got it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know what it is.
Speaker B:Consistency.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker B:Consistency.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:That's what we gotta do.
Speaker B:Do this more on a consistent basis so I won't be freezing up.
Speaker B:On the.
Speaker B:On the mantra, it was intention.
Speaker B:That was a word.
Speaker B:Laser focus.
Speaker B:To mind my credit, business.
Speaker B:Consistency.
Speaker A:It's intention.
Speaker A:Consistency.
Speaker A:Laser focus.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:That's why I said I missed.
Speaker B:I skipped the word on purpose.
Speaker B:Intention, blank.
Speaker B:Laser focus.
Speaker B:The word I was missing was consistency.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And I wasn't.
Speaker A:I listen.
Speaker A:I wasn't no good.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I ain't help you neither.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You was looking at me like, I don't know.
Speaker B:So I feel that.
Speaker B:Okay, so I need y' all to say this out loud.
Speaker B:Okay, here we go.
Speaker B:All it takes.
Speaker A:All it takes is intention, is intentional.
Speaker B:Consistency.
Speaker A:Consistency.
Speaker B:And laser focus.
Speaker A:And laser focus.
Speaker B:To mind my creative business.
Speaker A:To mind my creative business.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:On that note, we see you all later.
Speaker A:Peace.
Speaker B:Peace out.
Speaker B:Consistency.
